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JR, I don't disagree that there is not exact knowledge, but the two seconds or whereever the count was, is the closest thing to definite knowledge that you have...Again I say if you can reasonably say that the horn went off in the air then bring it back and go with 4.1 and repeat, but my assertation is that if it is obviously after the catch you have to go with the time you definitely know should not have come off the clock....and the only thing you can know is that the count you were at is the time that should not have come off the clock...if it is 2 seconds that is your definite knowledge, if it is 1 then that is it...Like I said it isn't exact knowledge, but it is definite.
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