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Originally posted by Kaliix
Let me ask this question. Let's say the pitcher is steping on the rubber and while he is bringing both feet together on the rubber, he is moving both hands to a position in front of his body. The pitcher is basically bringing his hands together as he steps on the rubber.
Is this allowed? Or is it a balk?
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Allowed. It's all part of "getting comfortable on the rubber." If we took the FED's "the pitching restrictions start when F1 intentionally contacts the rubber with the pivot foot" literally, we'd have dozens of balks a game.
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What if he steps on the rubber with his hands out in front of him, but there not at his sides and but not directly in front of him either. Kind of in between at his sides and infront of him. The pitcher then doesn't move his hands to be in front of him and take his sign until his feet are in position on the rubber, which means there might be a pause with his hands at that in between position before he brings them directly in front of his body.
Is this allowed? Or is it a balk?
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If the pitcher has become "comfortable" and then moves both hands together, he has started his pitch.
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I am asking because these are the types of moves I see kids make and I want to know if these are considered balks or not?
It sounds like what most in this thread are calling a balk is when the pitcher engages the rubber with his hands at his sides, there is a pause and then he moves both hands to in front of his body. Am I reading this right?
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Yes, you are reading this right.