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Originally posted by rainmaker
Okay so I got into a correctible error situation, and did I handle it correctly? You decide...
My partner called a foul, sent the "victim" to the line for one-and-one. I step into the lane, signal and verbalize one-and-one, bounce the ball, table buzzes. "Should be two shots." "Are you sure, last foul was only number eight..." "We told you wrong, last foul was number nine" okay, so two shots. Misses first, misses second, shooter's team gets rebound, makes shot. Fouler's team grabs ball, inbounds, ball goes down court on a long pass, pass is tipped, bounces, joggles, flies out of bounds (off of whom?). Table buzzes. "Actually last free throw should have been one-and-one, we had recounted and discovered we were wrong in the correction."
Lightbulb in head lights up: CORRECTIBLE ERROR: Awarding an unmerited free throw. Partner and I grapple verbally about what to do. In the end, we took away made basket, used the arrow to put the ball back into play.
At the next time out, I asked the table, did they get it straightened out? She explained what happened. When we called the foul, she had looked at the running foul part of the book, and buzzed because she had ten fouls checked off. But as the free throws were being shot a coach went to the table and said his records only showed nine fouls. The table person went back and could only find nine fouls in the individual-player part of the book, so had buzzed the second time.
Later, I look in the rule book, and see that we should not have taken away the made basket. What about the arrow, is that part right? We would have used the arrow without the interruption, so we just went ahead with that. Which part of the book has authority, the running foul part, or the individual-player part?
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Ooops, as Bob points out I missed the forest for the trees.
If the shot had missed, or if you had been notified
during the dead ball period following the made shot
then you ignore the second FT, as in the case book
play. And it's still a good one!
Good one! I believe since the second of the 2 FTs missed
you just play on as if it never happened (A.R.13 under
2-10b NCAA book, I'm certain there's an identical case play
in the NF book). So in your case score A's field goal
and go with the jump ball on the OOB (because you didn't
know who knocked it OOB, right?). As for the official
score, I'm not aware of a rule that allows either the line
score/foul count or the indivdal player counts to take
precedence. (I will say if I'm not so sure about the
scorekeepers I'll tell them before the game that the line
score is the official score, not the individual score,
just to cover my a** in case this type of thing happens.
I do not believe I have a rule to back me up on this.)
When these things come up you have a great opportunity to
practice your game management skills. Usually each team
has their own stat keeper so there are at least 2 versions
to look at when trying to get at "the truth". It's plays
like this that serve to remind us to know the foul counts
for each team. Very often these types of miscounts can be
averted if the officials on the floor can say with authority
"Are you sure about that? I have only 9 fouls" before any
of the FTs are attempted.
[Edited by Dan_ref on Jul 11th, 2001 at 11:47 AM]