Fri Mar 18, 2005, 05:18pm
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Originally posted by WyMike
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Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
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Originally posted by zebraman
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Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
here's what the NFHS manual says:
242, 352. For all free throws, the Lead official shall:
e. Bounce the ball to the thrower, and back out of the lane. The position of the lead offical should be approximately 4 feet from the nearer lane line well off the endline.
Personally I prefer to be up by the bottom player along the lane if there will be additional shots. It gives me a chance to talk to this guy, gives a visual cue that there will be more shots, puts me in a position to answer the occassional "How many shots was that, Ref?" question, and makes it easier to catch the first free throw before it hits the ground (which, IMHO, just looks sharp. Not sure how that plays with zebraman's opinion that it looks lazy, what say ye?)
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Didn't mean to hit a nerve guys. Maybe the reason I thought "lazy" was because somewhere in my tiny brain I read in the official's manual that we're supposed to be off the lane and off the line. I think it looks sharp to catch the first of two out of the net as well and I generally run in and grab it before it hits the floor. In the huge spectrum of things, where you stand is probably not at the top of the big deal list.
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I take no offense at your statement. When I'm off the lane, I'm usually back quite a ways, so I'm not going to be able to get to the ball before it hits the floor. So in my tiny brain I was thinking of them as mutually exclusive and just wondered which you thought might be more important. But it seems you've mastered both 
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Point is...
When you have a group of first year officials working the *small* games the "pros" no longer do or want to do, isn't best to work the mechanics as they're stated and shown? And then a guy can modify what he wants at a later time?
I've been lobbying for an association *approved* mentor program for the coming season and hopefully I can get one or two of the State Tourney guys to work a number of good games with me. Going to the point of volunteering my time if there is any extra work associated with it.
One bad habit developing will eventually lead to another and what really bites is having your partner *wave you off* in front of a crowd when you're trying to switch with him after a foul report. Nice. Or better yet, having him call a tic-tac foul from teh opposite T side while you're L directly in front of their bench and coach. That's a nice one too. I wonder who's watching his primary and off ball areas???
Like I said, it's bad enough not getting an experienced guy to help you improve, but it's worse when you're working with someone who can't even tell you what section the definitions are in. So I doubt they're reviewing any of the books too often and just using their TV/NBA/NCAA/old playing day knowledge to work the game.
"Hey didn't you read the POE stuff?"
"What's that???"
Rant over...
btw, I have 15 games in a 5th - 9th grade tourney this weekend. An additional 3 more 30+ Al Bundy League games, the Bundy League Championships and I'm also hoping to get into the college intramural State tourney too which will be held here in two weeks.
Anyone want to work with a hard working partner??? 
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Sure. I prefer to keep working hard, even when working rec ball, etc. But I'm not up for 15 games in a weekend. Us old guys will still work hard, just not for as long
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