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Old Sat Mar 12, 2005, 11:19am
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I may be out in left field on this, but I have a problem with a flop even if the defender is playing legal defense in every other regard. Just an example, a defender has LGP, he's moving backward while guarding (and still legal), but at the point of contact he intentionally flops--whether he goes to the floor or just flies back a step or two--to make the contact appear more severe than it actually was. If I can tell he's flopping, I do not want to give him the call on that.

This is exactly what I disagree with.

If the contact is worthy of a whistle on the dribbler you cannot take it away because you suspect the defender's "motives". I don't care if he launches himself backwards over your head doing the Dean-scream and lands in the 19th row. Give him the call.

Amen, Dan...
My patience is sorely tested every time one of my players, who have been taught extensively all the prerogatives they gain by first ESTABLISHING LGP, are called for blocks or no calls by officials who do not have a thorough knowledge of the actions allowed to MAINTAIN LGP. Do you think my 5'6 PG is not gonna use every nuance of the rules to avoid full contact from a driving 6'2 forward???
Sorry some of you guys are so insecure that you have to defend your honor and not let a 9th grader 'get over on you'.

What happened to the concept of rewarding good defense??

I think we all know a dead-up flop when we see it but any contact that displaces the defender in this sitch warrants a PC call even if you have the psychic powers to divine the defender started moving backwards prior to contact. Don't let a mere POE jaundice your judgement.
First of all, we're not in the business of rewarding anything. Good defense has it's own reward. But a player throwing himself to the ground to make a small contact look like a big one is not good defense. It's play acting.

I'm glad to hear that you're teaching your players about LGP. Honestly too few coaches even understand it, let alone teach their players about it.

But all that aside, how do you feel and how tested is that precious patience of your when one of your guys gets called for a PC when you think the other team's guard suffered some minor contact but mostly put on an oscar winning performance? Are you standing and applauding along with the other team's fans about their great defense? Or are you getting hot under the collar because their guy flopped and your guy got screwed by good acting?

How loud is your applause when that call that rewarded such "good defense" earned your star player his 5th foul in a close game? Is your applause all the louder still for believing that had the other team's actor not put on such a stellar performance, the contact probably would have been no-called?

And if perchance one of these little acting jobs gets you a little steamed, I'm sure you'll feel comforted to hear the official remind you to not be "so insecure that you have to defend your honor and not let a 9th grader 'get over on you'."

But perhaps I don't give you enough credit. After all, he had LGP and we are supposed to be rewarding good defense.

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