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Old Thu Jun 21, 2001, 03:51pm
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I still disagree!

In this particular case Team B is trying to stop the clock. If the slap on the arm isn't called, what will he do next...grab A1? push A1? Both of these lead to other problems.

So, in this situation I blow the whistle knowing I won't get any grief from anybody. If I don't blow, there may be a confrontation between players and I've got the coach screaming "what do we have to do to stop clock?"

I dunno. Maybe I'm just imagining the play differenty than the rest of you, but I'll stick with my call.
OK, you're taking an overall "game management" point of
view. I like that. So how about this: you call the foul
on B1, but everyone in the gym except you & your partner
sees that B2 is the slapper. You report B1, the scorekeeper
says "that's his fifth". Now the fun starts! I'm gonna
ignore the case where B2 didn't slap but merely clapped
his hands because you seem a little sensitive today, what
with all this metric-bashing and all.
With good game management, I just don't see myself picking
the wrong player if everyone in the gym knows the guilty party.

But...keeping with the scenario I imagine I would do this:

I report B1 and everybody goes nuts cause I got the wrong guy! No big deal. I huddle with my partner(s) and say "Oops, I tanked that one, obviously the foul was on B2 and I made a reporting error (wink, wink!).

With the crew all on the same page, I correct my "reporting error" and assess the foul to B2. Everybody's happy but coach A. But he has no gripe cause it's the right call...I just reported it wrong and that's an easy sell.

As for the metric thing, nobody has responded to my request in the other thread yet. Maybe because the calculations are too difficult!
Now your saying that the crowd can have an influence on what (and how) you call. This goes against everything I hav eever been taught.

One way to look at this question is: What would your reaction be, if a referee told you (as a coach or player) that he didn't actuall see the contact, and called a foul by sound.

I reckon that this would p off 99% of people, even if the call was right. The whole concept of refereeing is that you watch the game, and call only what you see.

I still believe that there is just way too much margin for error in this one.
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