View Single Post
  #23 (permalink)  
Old Mon Feb 21, 2005, 03:00pm
JRutledge JRutledge is offline
Do not give a damn!!
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: On the border
Posts: 30,527
Re: Re: Everything should be up for consideration

Quote:
Originally posted by Robmoz

Wow, I cannot believe that you would actually think that race (or gender for that matter) would play a significant role in determining who to assign to any given game. This is not the same as skills, experience, or attitudes.
Well sorry but that is the world we live in. I know of many women that have been hired to work D1 ball that have not as much experience as their male counterparts trying for the same positions. I know of conferences and even playoff assignments that went out of their way to hire women or African-Americans that were not given opportunities before. If that bothers you, that is something you might have a lot of problems with down the road. I know many coaches that wanted to see more women or African-Americans in their conferences and assignors have done what they can to accommodate. I recently worked with an official that had 30+ years under his belt. Neither skill nor experience was his strong suit.

Quote:
Originally posted by Robmoz
In fact, I would even question the motives of the "complainers" if I had to address the issue of race or gender in assigning games for their schools or events. I would even question the motives of the assignor who allows such gerrymandering to occur. Heck, I might even question the legality of the whole discriminatory practice if all other things were equal as well.
You really do not want to go there. So you are telling me that all the previous officials that were all white males are more qualified because someone decided to give them an opportunity? We talk all the time about the "old boy network" here and does it ever occur to you that those that have been given an opportunity were not any more qualified than those sitting on the outside? Do not tell me to give other people an opportunity is any more discriminatory than not giving anyone a chance that was not a white male. It is just like trying to tell me that out of all the players that played in the NFL and NCAA Football, you are telling me that only one or two African-Americans are qualified to coach at those levels? If anything, white males are the racial minority in all of basketball. More African-Americans and women play more basketball at the higher levels than any American white male does. But for some reason the numbers do not add up and the officials look little or nothing like the people who play the game.

Quote:
Originally posted by Robmoz
I work a significant amount of "city" games, I think, because I am a good official. Maybe, since I am a white guy, I have been assigned those games as a token or to show some sort of racial balance? Geez, I really need to re-examine my beliefs, I must have it all wrong.
I do not work a lot of "city" games and I am Black. But for some reason if a city team or mostly Black suburban team plays a mostly white suburban or rural team, I find my way on the game. I do not seek these types of games. I just end up on a lot of them. I know the assignors factor in what my race has a factor. Now one assignor had me work one of his Black schools about 6 times in a 3 year period. It was OK once or twice. It was getting on my nerves after that. Especially when the games were not that good or the match up was not a good one. I would rather go work two suburban white teams than see that team again and again.

Peace
__________________
Let us get into "Good Trouble."
-----------------------------------------------------------
Charles Michael “Mick” Chambers (1947-2010)
Reply With Quote