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Old Wed Jun 06, 2001, 12:50pm
Camron Rust Camron Rust is offline
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Re: Well............

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Originally posted by BktBallRef
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Originally posted by bob jenkins
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Originally posted by BktBallRef
BTW, I too, think it's a BC violation.
I think it *should* be a violation, but as we discussed on McGriff's, I think the rules can be used to show it isn't.
Bob and I have discussed this play in the past. The difficulty arises from deciding whether there is a loss of team control like there is on a try or tap. Is it a try or tap since it hit the backboard? A player can throw the ball of the backboard and begin a new dribble. He can attempt a shot, miss everything and go get it. Those two examples would tend to make one think that a ball that hits A's backboard is considered a shot. The NF even clarified theat a pass from behind the arc is considered a shot if it goes in.

As I said, I think it's a violation but if I'm on the floor, I'll probably tell B's coach that I thought it was a shot.
I fall on the side of believing that it is not a shot/try. All the rule says is that the backboard is considered to be part of the floor and that it is not a dribble if it is off the player's own backboard. It does not go so far as saying it is a try. I see is as an exception to the player control and dribble rules rather than as being a try. I do belive it is ambiguous however in its current form. Perhaps they do mean for it to be a try, but in that case you would need to consider the player in the act of shooting if fouled while throwing it off the board...not the intent in my opinion.

As far as the ball going in the basket from behind the line, I don't believe they are saying it is a try, I believe it is simply to be counted as 3...not unlike a team putting the ball in the other team's basket. It's not a try, but it still counts as if it were one if it goes in while live. Any fouls that occur during such action would not be shooting fouls.
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