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Originally posted by BktBallRef
I'm not questioning whether the TSSAA policy is correct, moral, or appropriate. I really don't care what their policies are are. All I'm saying is that the official was correct in his action is this is what happened.
Rut, in past posts, you've indicated that the IHSAA allows players and coacheds to use profanity. That's fine, if that's what they want to do. You also know that in my state, that is not allowed. That doesn't make either association right or wrong. We must simply uphold the rules and policies of the association that we work under. It would appaer that Jan Genosi did just that.
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TH, I never said that the IHSA (not the IHSAA, that is Iowa) profanitiy is not a T'able offense. I said that they do not have profanity as a no tolerance policy like the state of North Carolina. Other than what the rules say, profanity is not a policy in stone that warrants a T. And in my opinion and believe me different people disagree on this, I use common sense when the profanity is used.
If a player curses at his coach or curses out his fellow teammates, I for one am not going to give a T to that player or coach. But if he curses at me that is a different story. And even if we are having a conversation and a curse word is used, and not a sole hears this conversation but me and the player and or coach, I am going to be hard pressed to give a T.
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To Rainmakker:
I do not disagree that certain words do should not be said and should not be voiced at all, but if I am in the Chicago Public League and two Black players are talking amongst themselves and one uses the N word, I am certainly not going to go into there conversation and give a T for those words. Now, I do not agree with the usage of that word and being and African-American myself, as long as they are not calling myself a Nigger or one of the opponents or a fan, I personally do not care what they say amongst themselves. Now what I might do in this situation is call the players aside and tell them that word should not be used here or anywhere else that others can hear it. I am not one who advocates the usuage of the N word period, whether it is used by Blacks and African-Americans or people outside of that community. I was raised that way, but I do understand that others were not. So I am not going to give T's because I have a political difference with other Blacks or African-Americans about a word that is used in a political or social context. I have better things to do. But this is a whole different discussion.
I am a Christian, I am not one that is so easily offended. So the usage of "Jesus Christ" in itself is not going to get me to start T'ing the choir or a player because the say that. If you want to tell the truth, the usage if the Lord and savior is an offense unto God, not me. Only the people that make that type of comment has to answer to Jesus for that, not me.
I am not Catholic or Muslim or Buddist and do not understand all the things that would offend people of those religions. So I am not going to make the a point just because someone says something that offends a religion unless they comment is made to intimidate or taunt an opponent or me. So unless a comment is personal in nature, I am leaving it alone.
Now this does not mean that the comment will not go unsaid by me or a point will not be made. But I am not going to penalize a team or affect the game if a kids says something in anger to his team or to himself.
And considering that I do Football and Baseball and many things are said amongst teammates all the time that the only one that hears the comments are sometimes the teammates and maybe you if you are close enough. But I am an official, not the thinking police.
I think personally Christians need to get a life (and I am one) and find other things to find offensive. Are we going to start giving T's for other behavior that offends us like tatoos and other things that go against our religious beliefs.
Peace
[Edited by JRutledge on May 31st, 2001 at 07:45 PM]