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Originally posted by Nevadaref
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Originally posted by TimTaylor
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Originally posted by sfriede
Sat night Boys Varsity Game. Freethrow lane. The first lane spaces are filled with the defense and the second lane spaces are filled with the offense. In this situation before the shot is even taken the offense in the second lane space is leaning on the defense in the first lane space. Is this a violation? When the ball hits the rim, the defense doesn't have a chance they are already pinned. They do not have a chance to step in the lane to essentially make a good block out. Seems like the offense has created an advantage on this sort of speak pre-shot lean. What's your call?
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If it starts before the ball is placed at the disposal of the shooter, lead should catch it and tell them to knock it off.
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Lots of people are going to tell you something like this. It is wrong. 9-1-8 is the applicable rule. It only places a restriction upon where the player's feet are. Reaching into another player's space with his hands or arms is allowed as long as that player doesn't push or hold the opponent ONCE THE BALL BECOMES LIVE. The contact is NOT a foul while the ball is DEAD unless it is intentional or flagrant. The same is true for leaning in with the body. It may be annoying, but the rules don't prevent being annoying, just unsporting, and it is highly doubtful that this action qualifies as unsporting behavior.
It is a pet peeve of mine when officials tell players not to do something that is legal. Please don't be in that group.
Your only decision should be whether the contact is strong play or a foul.
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First of all, I believe you were thinking of 9-1-9, not 9-1-8. But neither is in effect until the ball is at the disposal of the free throw shooter. By your logic, you shouldn't tell a player standing on the block or on the line to move off before you toss the ball to the shooter. Because, until the free throw restrictions are in effect, it's legal for him to be there, right? And that would be telling a player not to do something that is legal, right?
Of course not. You communicate with the players to get them into a legal position for what is about to happen next. You warn throwers that they have a spot, you warn defenders not to reach through the plane on a throw-in. You warn players in all kinds of situations, fouls and violations, dead ball and live ball, to keep them from doing something you'll have to penalize them for. It's preventive officiating and game management.
[Edited by Back In The Saddle on Jan 17th, 2005 at 06:19 PM]