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Old Mon May 14, 2001, 09:22pm
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Unhappy Going on hand movement up?

This is a toughie unless you actually see it. Are you sure he was going from the wind-up with a runner on first?
My first read would be that most of us consider almost any movement from wind-up to be the start of the pitch. The foot movement first may make it believable.
My real concern with the question posed would be who is coaching runners to steal on hand movement up? Most (99.9%) pitchers go from the stretch with runners on, and no stop is required on a pick-off throw, only on a pitch to the batter. A good opposing manager will soon have all of your runners picked simply by starting up, then going to first immediately. Better have them wait until closer to commitment to pitch than just hand movement up.
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