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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Theisey
What part about the pylons being in the Endzone don't your Gurus understand? I do not think I am flat wrong. Anyone else care to comment?
The mascot is also in the endzone. So what. The existence of the pylons in the endzone (out of bounds, no less ... or are you trying to say they are IN bounds?!?!) is irrelevant to whether the ball went out of bounds before crossing the endzone line or not.
Let me stretch this point to the absurd, to make the point clear. Player A11 dives out of bounds from the 3 yard line, and is airborne, out of bounds, The ball is at the 3 when it goes out of bounds in flight. Player A11, just about to hit the ground, but still airborne, 3 feet out of bounds stretches his hand with the ball back toward the field and A) grazes or B) misses the pylon with the ball on the back/outside corner.
Are you calling this a TD? Of course not .... but if not - how does this differ from the original scenario in anything other than distance where you should spot the ball. In both scenarios, the ball is placed at the 3 yard line.
Stretch it further. Earlier in the play, another player hit the pylon, so it is no longer where it used to be. In diving for the endzone, the ball, when reached back toward in-bounds, crosses the goalline 3 inches out of bounds (where the pylon USED to be). Is this a TD? Of course not. So if you're ruling the 1st sitch a TD, and this one not, are you saying that the superfluous equipment on the field (the pylon) changes the dimensions of the field to allow a ball crossing the goalline 3 inches out of bounds to be ruled a TD, but only if the pylon has not moved?
Absurd. All of it.
The rules are VERY clear - if the ball (in possession of an airborne player) passes out of bounds before it crosses the goalline, it is spotted where it went out. Period. Please stop trying to use a rule that was not intended for this scenario to change the dimensions of the field, or the correct ruling that you would have gotten right had the pylon not been there at all.
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