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Old Thu Dec 16, 2004, 04:07pm
ysong ysong is offline
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Originally posted by blindzebra
Quote:
Originally posted by ysong
How do you call these plays:

B1 guards A1 near the basket, and maitains his legal guarding position.

a) when contact between A1 and B1 exists, A1 leans toward B1 to create separation before A1 takes a shot.

b)when no contact between A1 and B1, A1 initiates the contact by leaning (or crashing) into B1, before A1 takes a shot.

in both cases, the force is not big enough to knock B1 to the floor, but enough for A1 to gain a split of second uncontested time to make his shot.

c)both A1 and B1 jump up without contact, when still in the air, A1 twists his body to initiates the contact and crashes into B1, before A1 release the shot.


Do you call it offensive fouls on these cases?

As with most plays we'd need to see it.

You pretty much answered your own question on a) and b) when you said, "But enough for A1 to gain." A fouls is contact that gains and advantage or puts the opponent at a disadvantage.

c) could be a block, a PC, or nothing it depends on how B1 jumped and the release of the shot has no baring unless you are doing NCAA men.
all above scenarios happen frequently, especially a) and b). it is even more so when both A1 and B1 are moving. for some players, it is almost a habitual shooting sequecnce: to bump defender first before take the shot. all of those bumps more or less will create some disavantage on defenders, but how often do you guys call the offensive fouls on those cases? where to draw the line between the incidental contact and the fouls?

Thanks.


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