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Originally posted by mick
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Originally posted by BktBallRef
Thrower, touches the ball to the floor in inbounds or steps inbounds = Violation.
IOW, whether touching the ball to the floor or if the player is touching the floor, it's the same occurrence. It isn't logical for it to be a violation if the player's hand touched the floor inbounds but not if the ball, held by the same hands touches inbounds.
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So, we disregard: 4-4-4 [ball location --> player location]7-1-2 [player out of bounds --> ball out of bounds]4-35 [Location of Player --> where touching the floor]
We rewrite 9.2.5 Situation [Thrower touching inbounds] and
we add a situation called 9.2.6, both to include out of bounds thrower touching the ball inbounds.
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1) Sooooooo......using 4-4-4, if a player in-bounds with the ball, reaches over and touches the ball to the floor OOB, y'all say "y.U.P., perfectly legal! Play on!"?
2) Of course we don't disregard R7-1-2(a). That's why the ball touching the court in-bounds becomes OOB.
3) Of course we also don't ignore 4-35. That's why we have a subsequent violation under R7-2-2.
4) 9-2-6 is explicit imo too. The thrower-in can't touch the ball in the court. Was the ball in the court when it touched the court in-bounds? Yup! Did the thrower-in touch it at the same time? Yup! Ergo.....
How come we're using the same rules to argue completely different conclusions?
