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Originally posted by blindzebra
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Originally posted by Nevadaref
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Originally posted by blindzebra
If it does not hit anything and they catch it in the air it's a walk.
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Actually it is an illegal dribble if the player's pivot foot moved. See 4.15.4 sit E. A player cannot travel without holding the ball.
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That ruling based on 9-5 makes no sense. 9-5 talks about dribbling a SECOND time, the 2001-2 case book has it under 9-4 which makes A LOT more sense.
In that case play and catching this missed "shot" airball, you have not yet dribbled, it will BECOME a dribble when it hits the floor or backboard, so how can you dribble a second time when you have yet to dribble a first?
So they either need to add self pass, yet to strike the floor under 9-5, or put it where it more closely fits, under 9-4 and lifting your pivot foot prior to dribbling.
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Neither I nor that case book play ever said that this was a double dribble, which is really what 9-5 is when you read it.
It is simply that the movement of the ball does not constitute a legal dribble as in 4-15. The ball must hit the floor for it to be a dribble. Touching the ball twice before it hits the floor, as in this case, is an illegal dribble.
Another example of an illegal dribble is when a player is trying to split a double team. The dribble approaches the double team while dribbling with his right hand. The ball rebounds from the floor to his right hand. The player then shifts/passes the ball from his right hand to his left. The ball never touches both hands at the same time. The ball also does not touch the floor in between touching the players hands. The player now pushes the ball to the floor with his left hand as he splits the double team. This is an illegal dribble. There should have been a crossover dribble in there, but the player left it out in order to gain time. An old coach of mine taught me this move. He also knew that it was illegal, but stated that it was hardly ever called so it was well worth using against a trapping press.