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Originally posted by IAUMP
MJT,
While I agree that Warren in wrong, I believe you are too. The original post states that the hold was prior to the fumble, thus during the running play. The basic spot is then either the end of the play or the spot of the hold, under the all but one rule. Since the play ended at the 50 but the hold was at As 25 the spot for enforcement is the 25. Therefore, you will have 1st and 15 from A's 15.
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Hold on, the fact that the hold occured before the fumble does not change the fact that it occured during a loose ball play. If the hold occured after he had picked up the fumble and was running, then you are correct 1-10 from the 15 cuz it would be a foul during a running play, but this occured during a loose ball play, not a running play.
Similar situation, if the hold occurs by the offense before the QB passes the ball, it is during a loose ball play and enforced from the PS. This is no different cuz it is a loose ball play as I stated by rule 10-3-1c.
Do you agree now?