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Old Thu Nov 25, 2004, 06:16pm
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Originally posted by Kaenash

No seriously,

I expected some doubts, but if you go back to the original Knickerbocker Rules there are provisions for this.


"If there shall be a sufficient number of members of the Club present at the time agreed upon to commence exercise, The presiding officer shall designate a fifth base, and the bases shall be from "home" to second base, forty-two paces; from first to third base, twenty two-two paces, and from third to fourth,twenty two-two paces, equidistant"

While later chosen to be overturned.

I believe this is making its way back into sports due in no small part to the Swedish Brännboll which I am sure as you know, is wildly chaotic and unstructured in comparison.


Now as you all know, in 1969 Magor league baseball made some signifigant changes in regards to pitching, and during that time the Knickerbocker rules were updated so that the version today, doesn't include all the same references. But if you will refer back to your Haney’s Baseball Book of Reference: The Revised Rules of the Game for 1867 then you shall see where the influence comes from.

Granted, its unlikely to be adopted at the collegiate level, but you should be aware of its growth in popularity as a hybrid.

I am sure you all know most of the rules have changed and why, and relate to some of the many memorable episodes in baseball in which the rules have played a central role: the famed "Pine Tar Game," the beaning of Ray Chapman, etc et. al.

What a pile of horsesh!t

Knickerbocker Rules
by Alexander J. Cartwright
September 23, 1845

1ST. Members must strictly observe the time agreed upon for exercise, and be punctual in their attendance.

2ND. When assembled for exercise, the President, of in his absence, the Vice-President, shall appoint an Umpire, who shall keep the game in a book provided for that purpose, and note all violations of the By-Laws and Rules during the time of exercise.

3RD. The presiding officer shall designate two members as Captains, who shall retire and make the match to be played, observing at the same time that the player's opposite to each other should be as nearly equal as possible, the choice of sides to be then tossed for, and the first in hand to be decided in like manner.

4TH. The bases shall be from "home" to second base, forty-two paces; from first to third base, forty-two paces, equidistant.

5TH. No stump match shall be played on a regular day of exercise.

6TH. If there should not be a sufficient number of members of the Club present at the time agreed upon to commence exercise, gentlemen not members may be chosen in to make up the match, which shall not be broken up to take in members that may afterwards appear; but in all cases, members shall have the preference, when present, at the making of the match.

7TH. If members appear after the game is commenced, they may be chosen in if mutually agreed upon.

8TH. The game to consist of twenty-one counts, or aces; but at the conclusion an equal number of hands must be played.

9TH. The ball must be pitched, not thrown, for the bat.

10TH. A ball knocked out of the field, or outside the range of the first and third base, is foul.

11TH. Three balls being struck at and missed and the last one caught, is a hand-out; if not caught is considered fair, and the striker bound to run.

12TH. If a ball be struck, or tipped, and caught, either flying or on the first bound, it is a hand out.

13TH. A player running the bases shall be out, if the ball is in the hands of an adversary on the base, or the runner is touched with it before he makes his base; it being understood, however, that in no instance is a ball to be thrown at him.

14TH. A player running who shall prevent an adversary from catching or getting the ball before making his base, is a hand out.

15TH. Three hands out, all out.

16TH. Players must take their strike in regular turn.

17TH. All disputes and differences relative to the game, to be decided by the Umpire, from which there is no appeal.

18TH. No ace or base can be made on a foul strike.

19TH. A runner cannot be put out in making one base, when a balk is made on the pitcher.

20TH. But one base allowed when a ball bounds out of the field when struck.

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