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Originally posted by rwest
Suppose a similar incident happened at our place of employment. Suppose someone threw a beer in my face and then I mistakenly attacked the wrong person. What would happen? I would probably be arrested and fired.
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Why do people keep comparing apples and oranges? This is not your job we are talking about. This is not my job we are talking about. I do not know of any job other than a sporting event where you can be insulted in every way imaged and no one would be dragged out by the police. Better yet, do you know any jobs outside of a bar drink beer excessively? I know in an office job, you would not be dealing with individuals that can drink and call you all kind of names and that is accepted.
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JR, you say you don't care that the wrong fan was attacked. I do! That fan did nothing to deserve being hit.
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Did I say he did? Stop putting your own narrow minded point of view on what I am saying. Artest has already been punished and could face charges. He will get what is coming to him, but the fan started the chaos.
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I don't condone what the fans did. It was a disgrace and criminal. Charges should be as severe as the law allows. However, our society has gotten more violent. In our culture today, if someone disrespects you, people take that as a right to fight. When I was growing up, I was taught to walk away from a conflict before it broke nto a fight. Don't get me wrong. I believe you have a right to defend yourself. But Artest should never have gone up into the stands.
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This is not about being disrespected. This is about having something thrown at you and being hit in the face, which is assault by the way. I think I would not expect anyone to just take being assaulted lying down (no pun intended). This was not the first time and it will not be the last time a fight will happen at a sporting event. The other incidents that happen in the past were fans putting themselves into the mix with players. I agree that Artest crossed a line, but it was not like he just went up into the stands without provocation.
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JR, just because someone says something to you that you don't like, does not give you the license to beat the snot out of him. Nor does being hit by a cup of beer. The reponse must be proportional. Beer in the face = Fists in the face. I don't think so. Artest went way overboard.
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This is not about what fits the action, this is about what other action do you expect. If I throw something like a beer in anyone's face, I do not expect they are going to walk away. Maybe that is the reason I have never thrown a liquid at anyone. It does not matter if their behavior is right or wrong, I just know not to go there. I know that action will bring either violence to me or someone around me. I also know that if I say certain things to people, I might have to defend myself as well. I have never said that Artest did not cross a line, but the fan crossed one as well. I at least understand the actions of Artest. I have no idea why anyone would throw something sitting in the stands.
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Originally posted by rwest
Just my opinion.
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This is not just about an opinion, this is about reality. We might want people to behave in a certain way, but I know not to do things that will provoke a fight. I cannot say and do anything to someone at expect they are just going to sit there and do nothing. If that is what you expect, tell me how it goes the time you throw a beer in someone's face. Call me from the hospital or jail when that happens.
Peace