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Originally posted by wilko
Wow, already 2 responses. I can tell this is a lively place.
Thanks to both folks (Mr's(?) Redhouse and Jenkins) who had taken the time and replied thus far.
I am really more interested in its application in a game situation, as opposed to its literal definition by the NCAA. I guess I was vague in my initial post.
Since I have a willing and informed audience to field questions.... here are a couple more.
I often hear announcers on TV games speak of "advantage"... I dont understand this concept and application of the term here. Are they talking about something real or is that a myth?
As example -- Player X might be bringing the ball across halfcourt unguarded, and what would appear to the layman, to be carry or palming violation (some folks would say thats a nasty crossover dribble) is not called. Then the announcer would say something to the effect that there was "no advantage" there and thusly no call made. I would argure that a no call in that case rewards poor fundamentals. Indeed, I would say that NOT making that call in that case hurts the game and provides an advantage to the team that gets the benefit of the no call.
Screens.. whats to really stop a defender? Suppose that a fellow built like a fullback just slams the screener into the shooter to disrupt the shot. That does a bunch of things.. the intimidation factor, makes the screener less willing to step in, possible injury. What would be the ref'ing communitys' reaction to this type of physicality?
Game management.. During TV games, it always seems that after a foul is called, a commercial comes. Are those breaks choreographed in advance by the TV production crew? In other words, is there any pressure on the ref'ing community to MAKE breaks in the action to support the commercials of a televised game? And conversely, Could a coach save a foul on a player, by calling a timeout himself? Is this a real aspect of game management or am I trying too hard to see something that isnt there?
thanks in advance
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Let's try to look at some of your points.
1. Advantage/disadvantage is a major aspect of refereeing. In determining wether contact constitutes a foul, you have to see if the player was disadvantaged by the contact. Example Dribbler A-1 drives around B-1 and there is some contact, A-1 beats his man scores a lay-up. An inexperienced ref might call the foul right away and take that basket away. A better way to judge the play is see if the contact is illegal by the defender and if the contact puts A-1 at a diadvantage. As far as traveling or palming, you could also use the same the same principle (not everyone agrees). A player lifts his pivot foot before releasing the ball in the backcourt with no defensive pressure, I am going to ignore that violation. The same action occurs when the dribbler is going around the defender to score, I am calling the travel.
2. Pushing a screener (or slamming) into the shooter is a foul.
3. NCAA televised games have TV timeouts that are pre-determined. There are TO's at the first stoppage of play under the 16 minute mark (under 12, under 8, under 4) in both halves. The teams also have some TO's they can take.
There is no conspiracy. A foul occurs at the 15:32 mark and it is a non shooting foul, go to TO. I believe there is a rule change this year where they are going to TO's before the Free Throws, I am not certain about this.
4. I don't understand your question about a coach saving a foul?
Hope this helps.