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Originally posted by Whowefoolin
Need some help. LL Seniors game last night. One coach is griping about the other teams F3 holding on the baserunner with his one foot out of field of play.
The other coach then gripes about the base coach being out of the coaches box. So I go to both sides and tell them that all their kids have to be inside the lines and all coaches in the coaches box.
My questions:
1. Can F3 be out of the field to hold a runner on? And what exactly is "out"? The whole body? One foot?
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Technically, the whole body needs to be in fair territory. Not even a foot is allowed to be in foul ground. I have a personal disgust for managers or coaches who want to nitpick this issue.
There's nothing wrong with the way you handled it. I try to impart the seriousness of the allegation at the time the coach makes it. I'll say something like, "Coach, if I enforce that, I'll have to enforce it
strictly for
both teams. That means any play which happens when someone has even a toe in foul ground will be nullified. Repeat offenders will be ejected. Are you sure you want me to enforce that?"
I say it so only he hears it, but I say it so he understands. Most often, they just walk away and forget about it.
In my area, it is traditional to allow the first baseman to have one foot in foul territory. It is allowed even at the varsity level. We tell the coaches that, and it seems to work. If they press it to protest, we'll just "strictly" enforce it for both teams.
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2. Once you give the warning to the coaches/players about something like this, do you automatically toss them from the game or just have them replaced?
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Make it clear what the penalty will be. For the coach's box infractions, the penalty is ejection. For the foul territory thing, the penalty is that play is nullified. A player who is willfully and persistently in violation of this rule should be ejected.
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3. If you see jewelry or illegal shoes/bats (for LL) do you remove only the equipment or the player also?
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You remove the equipment.
If jewelry is found, issue a warning to the manager. If another player is found with jewelry, eject the manager. It's the same with illegal equipment - - if you find metal spikes, warn the manager, and then eject the manager for repeat offenses. Also with illegal bats and cracked helmets, etc. remove them, warn the manager, then eject the manager for repeat offenses.
You're quite welcome.
[Edited by Jim Porter on Apr 18th, 2001 at 11:30 PM]