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Originally posted by Nevadaref
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
You are kidding ,aren't you?
Article 5 is the only rule that an official could use to call a violation in this case? Um, how about 9-2-6- "The thrower shall not touch the ball in the court before it touches or is touched by another player". Isn't the ball "in the court" when it touches the floor in-bounds? Seems like R4-4-1 says it is- A ball which is in contact...with the court is in the backcourt if...the ball...is touching thre backcourt". Isn't the thrower "touching" the ball at that instant? Isn't the thrower the first to touch the ball after it touched in-bounds? Maybe you can find 2000 words to tell us why that rule can't possibly apply either.
Yer a hoot, Nevada! LOL. 
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JR,
I did glance at 9-2-6, but discounted it because it quite clearly is intended to only apply AFTER the ball is released on a throw-in pass. In this case, the ball has not been thrown.
I don't believe that 4-4-1 is applicable either. I hold this opinion because the player is still touching OOB, so the ball is still OOB since it hasn't been released by the thrower. This is the same as a player standing in the backcourt and bending over the division line and touching the ball to the court in the frontcourt. The ball does not attain frontcourt status in this case, since it remains in the player's hands who is in the backcourt the whole time.
Furthermore, if the thrower can hold the ball over the boundary plane in the air without violating, I don't see why it should be a violation to lower it to the floor. There is certainly no advantage in that. I just keep my 5 second count going.
Perhaps I am being too legalistic in my reading of the rules, but those are my opinions.
PS I think that is fewer than 2000 words. 
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Too legalistic? Naw, "goofy" is the best word.
Hell, if you look at R9-1-5 that you say isn't applicable, you're the only official that I know of that would make that statement. Whoa, maybe MTD Sr. in one of his
RULES modes maybe might do that too.
Look at the play! Was the ball
on the court? Uh, yeah, it was fully touching the floor in-bounds. How did it get there? Little faerie princesses transmogrified it there? Um, no, don't think so. Actually, the thrower put it there. Now how did the thrower put it there? Faith, trust and pixie dust? Hmmmm, don't really think that that was a factor either. Ya think maybe, just maybe, the thrower
carried the ball there? Carried it there and then touched the ball down
ON the court? Naw, that would be a logical conclusion. LOL!
Please, please please let me know when you decide to make that call, and then try to hand that explanation to the coach. I wanna be there. It would be worth the airfare.
Lah me, yer a hoot!