Thread: Two weird plays
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Old Sat Nov 20, 2004, 03:56pm
Jurassic Referee Jurassic Referee is offline
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Originally posted by SamIAm
This issue came up before and i am still not sure. JR, I agree with everything up to the point of whether the shooter completed the try or the ball was simply knocked out of his control before he could complete the trying motion.

The example I invision is A1 taking the ball up but B1 fouling before A1 gets the ball above his head. The ball comes loose, A1 regains control and shoots it, or whacks it toward the basket and it goes in.
I can't see how the try can end before the ball is shot.
If that same ball slips out of his hand before A1 shoots it, it not considered a try.
The definition of a "try" in R4-40-2 says that the player is throwing for goal. The try, or throw, ends when it is certain that it's gonna be unsuccessful. If the player regains control after the try is unsuccessful and shoots it again or whacks it towards the basket, then this has to be a second try. The rules don't support any other conclusion.

Put it another way. You said "the ball became loose" because of the foul. Isn't that a loss of player control, by rule also? Then the player regains PC and shoots the ball--> i.e. a second try.

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Nov 20th, 2004 at 04:03 PM]
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