I also posted this on McGriff's.......but wanted MAXIMUM exposure..........
OK guys (and gals).........here is the play......got questioned by one of our local league's President regarding this one after my games tonight.
This is an actual situation that occured in a kid ball game (8U) Monday night......ASA rules.
I kinda got this information 2nd hand.......but this is the way it was told to me.......
My first disclaimer is......Thank GOD I was not umpiring this mess............
1 ump game.........
Score tied with the clock expired......
Home team has bases loaded with 1 out.
Batter hits fly ball to F1......all runners off at the crack (ping?) of the bat...........F1 makes the catch and is somewhat undecided what to do........parents/coaches/spectators all holler for her to throw the ball the 2nd (why 2nd I don't know).....she finally does for the appeal of the runner on 2nd leaving early......for the apparent 3rd out.........BUT......R1 on 3rd has already crossed the plate.......
Umpire being a smart fellow......tells scorekeeper that the run counts........but does not tell anyone else (according to this account).....
All runners and players leave the field expecting an ITB (International Tie Breaker) finish......
Once all of the players enter their dugouts, the lone ump calls it a win for the home team and leaves.......an apparent ****storm occurs after his exit and no-one knows what the heck is going on.
The league president.......and apparently no-one in the complex knows what to make of the situation......the umpires gone, declaring the home team the winner and EVERYONE KNOWS he is wrong! I even think that some our our umpire board members (who were calling there that night) commented that the run could NOT count.
As I said.......I caught this 2nd hand from our leagues President (we have 6 leagues in our association and I was umpiring in this one tonight).
This is how I explained the situation to this boards President.........
The fly ball out to F1 was the 2nd out and the subsequent throw to 2nd was an appeal of a runner leaving early.......if the appeal was made after the runner from 3rd crossed home plate.......the run was legal (even though she too left early)........and appeal for a runner leaving early is a time play and the run should count.......the defense could still nullify the run by appealing that the runner from 3rd left early for an advantageous 4th out.......but when all players went to their team area........the umpire saw no appeal coming.......called the ballgame and left the field.
I told this league President that the only thing I could have found fault with was the failure of the umpire to vocalize to all that the run counted.......but he may have.......I got this 2nd hand.........I PERSONALLY would have given every opportunity for the defense to make the proper appeal........but don't we have to give up at some point?
Again........thank GOD this was not in a game that I called.........how would y'all rule on this?
Comments appreciated......
This is a situation that goes to show you that those "obscure" things that we talk about REALLY CAN HAPPEN.
Joel
One note.........I know the umpire who made this call and I will get his side of the story and also post it.......AGAIN.....THANK GOD THIS WAS NOT MY GAME......
