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Old Thu Oct 21, 2004, 02:02pm
JRutledge JRutledge is offline
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Originally posted by Sal Giaco
JR,
You are sinking deeper and deeper with each post on this subject. Regardless of the level, if the manager asks you to get help on a check/half swing that you, the PU, rule "ball, he didn't go" - you MUST ask your partner by RULE. That goes for FED, NCAA & OBR and whatever other baseball rules there may be. And yes, if you don't, the manager can PROTEST the game.
I see you have not ever picked up a FED Rulebook. You cannot protest a game in FED Rules and my state does not honor protests.


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Originally posted by Sal Giaco
Now that we've cleared that up
Are you sure about that?

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Originally posted by Sal Giaco
I understand your point about coaches asking you to get help "every time the ball bounces funny". Especially at the younger levels, inexperienced coaches try to do this often.
Yes they do.

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Originally posted by Sal Giaco
However, as you move up, things will change a bit and you'll deal with some managers that only come out for "legitimate" reasons. Sometimes, that can be a wake up call that perhaps you may have missed something.
I really do not want to make this about the level, but I work my share of JUCO and D3 Baseball over the years and coaches at that level are much more "calculating" and "premise" about what they complain about. If you do not do the job, you will not be back. So I am aware of the differences. But I work much more FED baseball because I choose to and that is the basic philosophy that I use. I still find it very silly to ask for an appeal because a coach thinks you missed something.


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Originally posted by Sal Giaco
Use your best judgement and communicate with managers in the most professional manner when explaining why you will or will not get help from a partner. Just my opinion
And it is my opinion that I can use my judgment and decide when I need help or should give help. Sorry, but coaches are not the barometer of that decision making process. Coaches ask for help on basic plays (like a tag play at second base); I am not doing that when the request is stupid and dumb to being with.

This discussion was not about whether we ask for help, but if the coaches determine when and if we ask for help. They never will in my philosophy.

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