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Old Thu Oct 21, 2004, 11:06am
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Originally posted by JRutledge


I do not give a damn what a coach wants. If my partner wants help, he will ask. If I need help, I will ask. The coach has nothing to do with that decision.
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So you are saying that you would get help if no one questioned the original call? Unless someone is questioning the original call, why would you need to go get help?


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I have also seen many situations where they did not ask for help either. I have yet to see an umpire ask for help at the ML level for a pulled foot or a dropped ball. They have gotten together on interference calls or rulings on homeruns or where to advance runners, but not on basic plays.
I have seen them get help on basic plays. Last year on a line drive down the first base line that stays in the park, 1B umpire ruled it a foul ball. After manager came out to question the call, the umpires got together, ruled it a fair ball, put the batter on second and scored a run.

Also, I have never seen them get together and conference on a play unless a manager or player is questioning the original call.

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I certainly have not seen ML Umpires asking for help on checked swings because the coach wanted it. They tend to do that on their own.
Personally, I never ask for an appeal on a check swing unless the catcher requests it, and most the time, it is the coach telling the catcher to ask for the appeal. If it's not close, then I just deny the appeal. I've seen very few MLB umps ask for an appeal unless a catcher requests it first or it's a checked swing dropped third strike.

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The last person I give a damn about is what the coach thinks. They sometimes have legitimate gripes and I have been officiating long enough to recognize that. But just because a coach wants me to ask for help is silly to me.
I'd like to believe you, Jeff, so please tell us about a few times that you went to get help or offered help on a call without first a coach or player asking to get help.

As much as you would like to think that a coach, player or fans have no infulence on you, they do a little. I don't think anyone is saying that you go to get help every time a coach asks, but unless someone is questioning the original call then why would you need to get or give help?
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