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Originally posted by DownTownTonyBrown
Many seem to be missing the point - don't over-rule your partner.
One foot can only be in one location at any one time. One foot - one location. Your eyes see the foot and know that it can only be in one location. My eyes work the same way. One foot - one location. The problem is two sets of eyes (yours and mine) may "see" two different locations... for the one foot. Compound that with the fact that most players have two feet... two sets of eyes now we have four possibly different foot locations. Whose set of eyes are correct? I don't think it is just whoever says they saw it last obviously sees most accurately.
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OK, what is your point? I am not saying that you guess, I am saying you better know. Like the foot is completely over the line and you are possibly blocked or out of position (like being in transition). I know I would want the lead to let me know if on a fast break shot a 3 point shot. I might be guessing while he sees the play all the way. Is that the Lead's area? No it is not. Do they have a better look? More than likely they do if you ask me.
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Originally posted by DownTownTonyBrown
Several of you must not have understood my question to Mick about "What time is it there?" Your perception of the time is displayed on your watch. My perception is displayed on my watch. The real, true time is completely independent of either one of those watches. But my perception is that my watch is 100% correct... as is yours for your watch. Whose is right? Perhaps neither one. This is why decisions are rendered by ONE official, and not two, or a committee.
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That is a really bad analogy if you ask me. That has nothing to do with what we actually see or can be seen on video. But if my job has the time set correctly to what my watch says, that time is the only one that matters if you ask me. Your watch is only a reference point. Not a very good comparison if you ask me. I got your point, but it does not apply to this discussion.
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Originally posted by DownTownTonyBrown
One official has responsibility for making the determination of 3 or 2-point attempt based upon where that shot is taken. The time to make the effort to get the call correct is not after the shot has been taken but before. Get in the position to make that call before the shot is taken. That's what I do, and my partner has never come to me and said he was going to over-rule my 3-pointer decision. I have already made the effort to get that call correct... the first time. Don't come tell me my effort was wasted and that you are going to over-rule my decision. Your watch reads different than mine... but we weren't supposed to be looking at your watch.
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If you think only one official has this responsibility, you need to go back and read the mechanics books of all the levels. Both the NF and the CCA mechanics books make it clear there are areas on the floor that two officials could very easily look at the same shot.
This is not a foul call. This is not even an out of bounds call or violation call. A 3 point shot is a different animal. If you feel a personal afront to that decision, I guess you have that right. But we can view video tape all day long about a change and sometimes not agree. Video tape can show a foot on the line or not with the right angle. I would rather go with a partner that knows his foot was on the line than try to hold on to some theory that I "worked hard to make that call."
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Originally posted by DownTownTonyBrown
This getting the call right is some, ONE, official's responsibility based upon the location of the call. If I have any doubt about my position and view of the play, I will ask for help. But if I make the decision, I don't want you over-ruling me.
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I do not think anyone said they were overruling you. But if you want to be wrong, I will let you be wrong. Then I will tell the assignor that you insisted on being wrong. But if I had some coverage area, I am making a decision. I am not going down to burn for one 3 point call that you want to be stubborn about. Not sure why I have to have a long conversation with you to say, "I saw his foot was on the line." Oh well.
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Originally posted by DownTownTonyBrown
And it is surely not "He who makes the call lastly, makes it most correctly." That's the garbage of which I originally spoke.
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Well Tony, I think it is garbage that you think only one official has this call. But you have continued to state it despite what the mechanics cover.
Peace