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Old Tue Oct 05, 2004, 01:20pm
Bob M. Bob M. is offline
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Re: Re: FALSE START

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Originally posted by Rich Fronheiser
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Originally posted by KWH
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Originally posted by red
Wide reciever takes a step forward and step back just before the snap. Why would this be illegal motion and not false start? Live ball foul verses dead ball foul?
This IS a FALSE START.
We have all seen this type of play many times and the situation is very simple, the player involved missed the count and thus he committed a FALSE START
Bob M is correct, nothing good can come from allowing this play to continue, so,
SHUT IT DOWN and enforce exactly what it is, a FALSE START.
I disagree.
REPLY: Rich, here's a real-life play that happened when I was a younger LJ: WR misses the snap count and begins to move forward just before the snap. He stops when he realizes his mistake. The DB who's playing him heads up on the line, stands up to point out the transgression. I'm working from the old "he can reset" mentality. The ball is snapped as the WR resets. So I've got an illegal shift. The WR blows by the DB who has relaxed thinking that a FS would be called. The DB reaches out and grabs him to neutralize the advantage. The ball is thrown just over the WR's head. Now I have to go back to the R and report a double foul. If I had killed it (which we always do now in such cases), only A would have been penalized.

The comment about "nothing good can come from letting that play go" was not mine, but rather that of a friend who worked in the Big East and is now in the NFL. Both NCAA and the NFL call it a FS whenever any Team A player apparently misses the count and feigns a charge that simulates action at the snap.
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