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Originally posted by bjudge
Ok, not to belabor this any further, but here is my question. If two officials are in position to make the call and one official throws a flag and the other one doesn't, why should the one official that throws the flag automatically overrule the official that didnt throw his flag.
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I do not think you get it. You probably never will.
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Originally posted by bjudge
Both officials made a call, whether it is right or wrong. Why should the penalty be marked off without any further communication between the two officials, or at least with the R?
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The White hat has nothing to do with the call other than reporting it (at least in this example). Why is the Referee going to take your word over the official that made a call? "I saw something different." You would have to do better than that.
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Originally posted by bjudge
Some of the comments I have read seem to indicate that the person with the flag is the one that made the call. However, are we ignoring the fact that the other official made a call as well and that sometimes a good no call, is the right call?
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No one is ignoring anything. What you keep missing is that your opinion about a call is no more valuable than your partner's. If you constantly have a different opinion then your partner, are we going to have a conference on every call or play? Are we going to have to debate every decision? So you had a different angle, guess what you will always have a different angle than your partner. It is very possible you might even disagree with your partner from time to time. A good Referee is not going to take your word just based on judgment. You have conferences to get rule applications right and make sure you enforce a penalty properly, not for who agrees that the call was right. I am sure if we ask the calling official, he would think you were wrong. So what have we accomplished? We have two different officials that saw the same play differently? You said it was obvious, but the coaches chewed out the kid for committing the foul. Interesting, I have done many games where the coaches disagree with me rather than just chew on the kid. It must not have been obvious to everyone.
I said this before. We are going to make mistakes. When you have a perfect game it will be time to hang up the whistle. I have never had one, I am sure you will never have one. I have yet to see one. There are always calls that could be up for debate. Ask guys in the NFL or D1, they get downgrades for calls all the time. Maybe if you see it on tape, you might change your mind. Maybe if he sees it on tape he will agree with you? Or maybe not? But this is just my opinion.
I am sure you know better than I do, considering you have all but 2 years of varsity experience. I think the rest of us should just listen to you and throw out all the normal practices because you see it differently.
Peace