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Originally posted by Rickref
After the 10 minute mark has passed in pregame warmups a player on Team A recieves a technical foul for dunking in pregame. Team B wants B6 a nonstarter to shoot the free throws which is legal. The question is who now starts the game. Does the player B6 subbed in for have to wait for the one tick of the clock or is he allowed to start. References.
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Rick,
I had this come up before and did a bit of research on it to learn what is the correct procedure. The key statement is in the Simplified and Illustrated book.
Here is the NFHS way with rule references:
The technical foul for the pregame dunk is a charged to the PLAYER who dunked, indirectly to the Head Coach, who loses his coaching box, and also counts as a team foul toward the bonus. (10-3-4 plus chart of page 76, and the Note to 1-13-2 in the Penalty section of 10-5) Let's call the player who dunked A1.
Now rule 3-2-2a specifically allows Team B to change a designated starter after the 10 minute mark without receiving a team technical foul in order to attempt a technical-foul free throw. So B6 is swapped for B2 in the starting line up.
Now we wait around for the remaining warm-up time to expire and then start the game with 2 FTs for Team B due to A1's pregame dunk T. The first or second FT must be attempted by B6, otherwise Team B will receive a T for illegally changing their starting line-up. For simplicity, let's say that he shoots both, even though he really doesn't have to.
Since the game and the first quarter start when the ball first becomes live (5-5-6), the game actually starts when the ball is placed at the disposal of the technical foul shooter, B6 in this case, for the first attempt. (6-1-2c) Since this is the start of the game all ten designated starters need to be on the court at this time.
If nothing else goofy happens, Team B is given the ball for a throw-in at the division line opposite the scorer's table following the 2 FTs. The initial direction of the arrow is set towards Team A's basket when the ball is placed at the disposal of the thrower. (4-3-3b, plus Simplified and Illustrated page 22 top picture)
Now the question about when can the originally designated starter B2 enter the game is answered clearly and precisely by the Simplified and Illustrated book on the top of page 55. This play-pic specifically covers the pregame dunk T, with the changing of a designated starter to shoot the FTs. It references 8-3, which is a bit odd. Yet what's most important here is that the last sentence under the pictures says,
"The replaced starter may not return until after the clock has run following the last free throw."
So now we know how the NFHS wants it done. However, I will add that I believe their interpretation of this situation is incorrect based upon what is written in the RULES BOOK. I wrote a lengthly post on this forum stating this a while back. In short, I contend that B2 has never participated in the game (never been a player by the definition in 4-34-1) and therefore should not be subject to the restriction of 3-3-4. He was not substitued for, he was not replaced as a player, nor was he directed to leave the game.
To me changing a designated starter BEFORE THE GAME STARTS and replacing a player who is actually in the game are two very different things.