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Old Tue Sep 14, 2004, 01:56pm
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Originally posted by JJ
I dropped a note to Elliot Hopkins about some of this "lodged ball" stuff - here's the exchange -

Elliot,
I've been watching the baseball section of the Official Forum (http://www.officialforum.com/) and there's been some interesting discussion on FED rules and interps. Here's an interesting one -
"R2, one out. Screaming liner to F6, who catches the ball and tags the frozen R2 off the bag. As F6 reaches in his glove to toss the ball on the mound on his way to the dugout, BU notices F6 has to dislodge the ball from between the fingers of the glove. The boys in Indianapolis want us to reverse both outs, score R2 and put the B/R on 2nd? It'll take both hands to count the ejections."
There have been some insightful threads - including one I started asking for suggestions on revisions for the NFHS umpire manual for upcoming issues. Enjoy!"

His reply -
"It is funny you mentioned that scenario. I just added two new casebook plays to address lodged equipment issues. We are going through the umpire’s manual revision as we speak. If you have something really pertinent please send it to me so I can review it. In terms of your situation, I do not see how you can justify reversing both outs. The below mentioned play is covered by rule in NFHS BB rulebook 2-9-1 (out) and 2-24-4 (tag out). We would not make that interpretation for those reasons. . Keep well."

Elliot

Who in the world invented your play? Who are the "boys in Indianpolis" who wanted the outs cancelled? That's nonsense -- and you know it!

All you succeeded in doing was confusing the issue.

Amazing!

A batted ball caught in flight, which then lodges in the fielder's glove, is STILL a batted ball caught in flight. A tag with the ball securely (as a lodged ball would be) in the glove of a runner off the base is STILL a tag.

Happily, Mr. Hopkins did not fall for your red herring.

THE PLAY (from the BRD) for which the ruling was sought was a come-backer grounder to the pitcher. When that ball lodges, the ball is dead and runners get two bases: We don't want the defense throwing around a glove/ball combo.

[Edited by Carl Childress on Sep 14th, 2004 at 02:59 PM]
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