[Bandit]

I'm going to have to go with the offense. Like Skahtboi stated if the runner leaves BEFORE the pitch then the PITCH has not yet occured so you can have no Illegal pitch. The book says the pitch STARTS at the seperation of the hands, the pitch itself has not occured until the RELEASE of the pitch.

Now for FUBLUE's part, no I did not screw up. ME, no way. Even though the coach wanted a leaving early the runner had not committed such a crime. So therefore only the illegal pitch is called. I am simply adding some thoughts to this scenerio so as to LEARN, LEARN, LEARN !!! :-) If we can add all these "what if's" now it's less likely we can be surprised by them later. Correct ? And with some of the situations we see thru the course of our travels it is wise that we know as much as we possible can !