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Old Fri Sep 10, 2004, 03:42pm
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Originally posted by sir_eldren
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Originally posted by goldcoastump
It is a spot foul, but the all but one principle would not apply since the foul by the offense did not happen behind the line of scrimmage.
That's not correct. The All-But-One Principle applies to any Team A foul behind the basic spot, not the line of scrimmage. Remember, the basic spot for a running play is the end of the run, and the basic spot (in most instances) for a loose-ball play would be the line of scrimmage.

So, if the play were a pass and the hold occured 2 yards behind the LOS, the penalty would be administered from there (as long as the hold occured before the possession was established by the receiver). Same play, and the hold occurs 3 downfield from the LOS, then so long as the hold occurs before the catch, the basic spot will be the LOS.

On a running play, it's the end of the run. Period. If the foul occurs behind that, we chop the run down to the spot of the foul and penalize from there. ;o)

For live ball penalties, adminster penalty yardage, then check for down.

-Craig
Sorry, but the all-but-one principle applies for almost every foul during the play (Rule 10-6). The "but one" part applies only if it is a foul by the offense behind the basic spot.

Also, I am just wondering: in what circumstance would the basic spot not be the previous spot for a loose ball play (I am curious because of the "in most instances")?
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