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Originally posted by Derock2004
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Originally posted by Warrenkicker
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Originally posted by SeanWest
Assuming we're talking about NFHS, high school rules...
5 yards are added to the end of the run (if the foul was by the defense).
The down is not repeated... if the foul happens on 2nd down, it will be 3rd down after the pentaly is applied if the ball is still not past the line to gain.
There is never an automatic first down.
-SW---
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You might want to read up on your rules a little better.
Also my response was an all-inclusive response covering all penalties, not just the one mentioned.
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Warren, you have me confused. I am in agreeance with SW post. This is a live ball foul against the defense for incidental face mask. The enforcement is 5 yards added to the "end of the run". The way this appears to me is the Offense keeps the run/down, gets 5 yards added on the end of the run, AND they get the down over??? That doesn't sound correct to me. Now if the penalty results in a first down then they get the first down but I don't think they get the down, additional yardage, and the down over. Maybe you need to read up on your rules a little better or please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Um, yes they do. Read rule 2. Then read it again about 40 times. This is BASIC stuff.
That way you'd know that the only reason they get the yardage "tacked" on is because the basic spot on a running play is the end of the associated run. The down still repeats, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER FOUL (excepting the automatic first downs, of course) unless the line-to-gain is reached.
The reason penalties are misapplied is that people don't understand terms like "basic spot," "all-but-one," "running play," and "loose-ball play."