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Originally posted by Bfair
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Originally posted by Carl Childress
This is a play similar to one in the J/R. It was debated extensively on McGriff's. I called the PBUC and asked Mike Fitzpatrick for a ruling. I didn't wait long. He said that in OBR play, if the defense plays on the BR, making him out at first, R3's run will not score.
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Originally posted by Carl Childress
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Originally posted by Bfair
EXCEPTIONS: A run is not scored if the runner advances to home plate during action in which the third out [my emphasis] is made as follows:
a. by the batter-runner before he touches first base; or
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Do I need to say anything else?
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Seems to me to be the exact same wording (in essence) as that used by OBR and for which the PBUC ruling was obtained. Is that not correct? So, do you disagree?
Do you choose to use your analogy of interpretation from one set of rules to the other only when you like the outcome?
Therefore, I don't understand your point.
Steve [/B]
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I'm sorry you don't understand. Let me spell it out.
The PBUC ruling is for professional umpires and those who use the professional code in their adult leagues. It is based on the theory that the defense gets to pick the most advantageous out on appeal. The J/R play, though not an appeal, is
like an appeal for the 4th out.
FED doesn't have that. The umpire makes the decision. He's the one who calls the out without any "help" from the defense.
Do you believe you can convince the members of the Ft. Worth chapter that the umpire should call that man out at first
after the defense has made a third out during play?
If you try that in your chapter, you'll never rise about JV games, which I presume is one of your goals.
My "opinion," as I made clear, is that the people who make interpretations for FED will also not accept the PBUC ruling. Heck, I know plenty of OBR umpires who find it rather bizarre.
I trust you understand my judgment now.