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Old Tue Aug 24, 2004, 04:46am
jjrye22 jjrye22 is offline
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Most of the time we are not overruling!!

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Originally posted by insatty
I'm the white hat on a three-man crew working a JV game. A sweep right, and as A1 tries to turn the corner A2 throws a vicious block on B1 who has the best angle to tackle A1. The block is entirely legal: high and, because B1 had just turned, in front.

But out comes HL's flag. I call a conference of we three and I attempt to talk HL out of the flag. HL adamantly refuses to correct his call, out of pure ego. L didn't see the block, so the vote is one against one and I let the call stand.

Although I have many higher-level games and a few years behind me now, my failure to wave off that flag still haunts me to this day.
I think this is probably the best possible example we have seen of 'Overruling' another offical. Most of the other discussions are about working together and coming to a conclusion.
In this example (I have had a similar experience last year), the officials could not come to a consensus, and the offical that threw his flag got his way - even though there was a ligitimate question about the foul.
insatty did not overrule the flag - and since he could not convince the HL of what he saw, the foul has to stand.
If not, who gets the final say? Can a BJ overrule a SJ on a pass - can an U overrule a LJ on holding - can a LJ overrule an U on the same holding???

insatty - I was also not able to change the mind of the covering offical, and it bugs me a lot, but I couldn't do anything about it. Afterwards we discussed it, and he was still too 'proud/stubborn' to admit it could have been differently - oh well. We try to reduce the mistakes made to minimize the damage, but sometimes mistakes do get made.

James