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Well, I'm a little ticked off. (grin) My nice post demonstrating that I know something about syllogistic logic (the major term is the predicate of the conclusion) is gone, deleted by ... who knows.
At any rate, I kept a copy so I can repost it at any time.
In the meantime, I set out to reply to a post by Peter Osborne, but that post was part of the deleted thread.
So I'm posting Peter's message and my reply, and only a moderator (or me) can delete this part of the thread.
Ain't life interesting these days?
Peter Osborne wrote:
Carl;
Shortly after I stopped writing for officiating.com, I was asked to rejoin a private list serve for umpires of which Tee is a member. (I do not know if there was a link between my severing of ties with you and being asked to rejoin. )
This group has two mantras. The first is that all coaches are rats. Tee is a member of this group and I can assure you that the group as a whole harps on the rat issue day in and day out. Dave Emerling is a member and he takes unbelievable abuse because he also coaches. On a certain level, that abuse could be considered equivalent to the abuse that Rut takes here. It is all the worse because there is more intimacy in a private group than on the more anonymous public forums.
In my usual tactful way, I pointed out this hypocrisy and was promptly booted out. If I told you exactly what I wrote, it would certainly be censored. This will probably be censored anyway since at least on of the moderators here is also a member.
The other mantra of this group is their hatred of you. I will enclose one message about you that will give you a flavor. I have replaced parts of the profanity with "$" signs but other than that the message is exactly as written and I left off the signature block. I do not believe that the writer posts on this forum. The message was written in response to a posters message where he mentioned EWS. I am sure that you remember this group.
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EWS???
It just took you longer to get burned by that egomaniac xxxx.[referring to CC] I neither read what he writes any longer (over two years now) nor do I give a xxxx about him. The day he dies I'll lift a glass, dance a jig and piss on that xxxx grave.
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When I joined, I told Garth that he should start a pool on how long I would last before being booted out. If he bet on one week, he was the winner. I took too strong an exception to the thought process that labels all coaches as rats. (in my usual diplomatic way, of course. )
Peter
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My response:
Peter:
I am once again flattered that I can arouse such feelings of love in umpires. Imagine: The gentleman you quote wants to life a toast in my memory. Dancing at my wake? What higher praise can one have?
Of course, I am sorry he doesn't read any of my stuff. Likely he would have had plenty of material for his email group if he had.
Probably your relationship and mine can be characterized as disagreeable more than agreeable though the last two years have been relatively amicable.
One thing's for sure: Nobody can accuse you of being a rat. Or me. And we agree: Not every coach is a rat.
My new syllogism (valid but as yet unproved) is:
No amateur coach can be a rat.
Rich Ives is an amateur coach.
Therefore: .....
[Edited by mick on Aug 23rd, 2004 at 09:07 AM]
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