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Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
If your opinion defines "common sense" then why have none of the reality based football officials come to you aid lately? The only ones I've seen are guys who contend that my point of view seems to be the way the world is going.
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This issue is not about how many are on one side. Then how many are on the other side. I did not get to where I have in my officiating career or life just listening to anyone that has an opinion. Sorry, but I am not keeping score.
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Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
Occassionally we, as officials, get a call wrong. When that happens and another officials has a different opinion that seems to controvert the first call, we overrule the original for the good of the game.
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In football we do not have safe and out, balls and strikes. If someone has an opinion, it does not mean we will still not have a call, we might eject a player rather than just give a PF. And just because someone gives an opinion, it does not mean that we will change the decision just because someone disagrees. As a Referee I have had officials try to tell us to administer a rule improperly because they either did not realize the status of the ball. So no you cannot just take an official's word for their point of view.
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Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
You previousl alluded to a play that involved your crew. Your back crew blew it, BUT, if YOU would have seen that it wasn't a catch, as referee - even though they were right on top of it - you wouldn't have offered to change the call, because your rule book doesn't allow for it. God, you make this easy!
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I should not see a catch downfield as a Referee in a 5 man crew. Not sure how I would have knowledge of that play. I have to watch hits on the QB and any actions behind the play. I should not see a pass to where I can tell if it was completed or not.
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Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
FYI, if two guys are responsible for watching every catch, then why is it that we see those plays reviewed and overturned each Sunday.
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The reason those are overturned is because we have 12 cameras and many angles that can catch most plays. They cannot overturn calls that have no conclusive evidence. Also, those plays are repeated on SportsCenter 100 times a night and the NFL thought they could use a system to change plays. But the officials on the field still have to come up with a call and they can only change a call based on what the official on the field called. And now the Big Ten has gone to an instant replay system that is not like the NFL. It is very possible that no calls will get changed during Big Ten game.
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Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
Maybe, because they got the call wrong and the league understands the responsibility for correcting human error when possible?!? Let's not forget, those guys have officiated more than 18 varisty games.
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Let us also remember, that they are going to be evaluated much more then if they get a call right that might get reviewed. They will also be evaluated on flags and who threw them and who did not throw them (not reviewable in any replay system). They will be evaluated on who is in position to make the call. They will be evaluated on if they applied the rule properly (those are almost ever reviewed).
Remember the NY Giants/49ers playoff game? There was an illegal man downfield and a DPI on the same play. The play was not reviewable at all. No flag, no change in the outcome of the game. The officials blew the call and the NFL gave an "apology" and even changed their crew concept for the playoffs as a result. Now what should have happen in that play, there should have been offsetting penalties and NY should have received another opportunity to kick the FG to win the game. And it was hard to argue that this was not a very bad call, but there was nothing that could be done by the officials or the NFL at that time. And if that were to happen today in the Big Ten or NFL, they same result would take place. It would look bad, but it could not be changed. If someone does not throw a flag, you cannot come in and make it a penalty after the fact.
Peace