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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Oh, you wouldn't suggest that, eh? Was it another Windy City Blue that stated the following?-
"You claim that basketball officials never overrule a bad call. You said that includes FED and NCAA. I pointed out one very specific occassion where it occurred in the NCAA tournament last year.... Now you say that it wasn't overruled. The other official came in and gave another perspective indicating the call was incorrect. Then the calling official changed the call, but it was NOT overruled. When one official makes a bad call and another confers with him(maybe it takes seconds, maybe longer) to contradict the call, and it is changed, it has been overruled. A ruling was made, and it was turned over...thus OVERRULED.
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This is more directed at Windy then you Jurrasic
I believe the sitch Windy is talking about is the Lead ref coming out with the Block call and the Trail ref coming in with a Travel. This is not an overrule. The Trail Official is not coming in and
CHANGING his partners call. An overrule on his partners call would be more along the lines of changing his block call to a charge call (or even better nullifying the call and making it a no-call). He is GIVING information about something that happened
BEFORE the block happened (the travel in this case). Once the travel is called the play is dead and the contact afterwards is not called unless it is severe enough to warrant a more severe foul (of a technical nature as it happened during a dead ball).
In this play, did you see both refs when the whistle was blown. Did both have a signal (one with an open hand the other with the fist)? If that is the case they have a double whistle and are supposed to discuss what happened first and make the correct call. Sometimes some refs (myself included (gotta work on this)) don't hear their p's whistle and make the signal of what they called (the Lead ref in the NCAA game) - The trail official realizing this and knowing that his travel happened before the Block came in and gave information very visibly and verbally (with his whistle). In this case the travel happened before the block so that was the correct call to be made.