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Old Tue Aug 10, 2004, 05:28pm
Kaliix Kaliix is offline
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If you cannot tell me why the statement below is wrong then you cannot logically win this debate because the statement below is actual rule.

7.10(b)could legitimately read "Any runner shall be called out on appeal, when with the ball in play, while advancing to a base, he fails to touch each base in order before a missed base is tagged."

In your scenario from your last post, no the runner has not touched the bases out of order. He has not touched the bases in order before a missed base is tagged. The rule specifically deals with the touching and passing of a base by referring to it as a missed base!



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Originally posted by Gee
I'm not reading into the rule, I'm simply reading the words as they are written and their intended meaning.

Let's say a batter hits a gapper, touches first and then fails to touch second in passing and goes half way to third and stops.

Has he TOUCHED the bases out of order? He might have RUN the bases out of order and he might have PASSED the bases out of order but he certainly hasn't TOUCHED the bases out of order. He only touched first how can he be guilty of touching the bases out of order?

That is why he is not appealable under OBR 7.10(b) he must be tagged to get the off base out. That has been changed.

They extended 7.10(d) to all bases circa 1975 in a compromise between the Baseball Umpire Development program, led by Nick Bremigan and MLB to have a "missed base" handled the same on all bases as they are at the plate.

7.10(d) still doesn't allow an appeal the moment the runner fails to touch the base in passing, it just moves it back from touching his advance base to leaving the immediate area of the base the runner failed to touch in passing.

Once he leaves that area (I use the cutout) he can be
appealed but if he stays within that area he must be tagged for the out an appeal isn't allowed, ever. G.

[Edited by Gee on Aug 10th, 2004 at 04:35 PM]
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