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Originally posted by DG
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Originally posted by jicecone
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Originally posted by bob jenkins
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Originally posted by tornado
If he's swinging, it's a STRIKE and a dead ball.
Always. ALWAYS. A L W A Y S! (jicecone, 2004)
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Hmm...
F1 balks, but continues with the pitch. B1 swings at the pitch, but misses it and the pitch hits him. 
I don't think it's a STRIKE and a dead ball -- Always, ALWAYS. A L W A Y S!
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Interesting point,
OBR 8.05 PENALTY: I read what it says , but is the ball really delayed dead for "a hit batter". And isn't this in conflict with 6.08b. Please clarify.
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6.08b does not apply to pitch that is swung at. A balk, is a delayed dead ball, in OBR if the PU can't react fast enough to get the pitcher not to throw the ball. If he throws and hits the batter while swinging it's a dead ball, but not a strike. BR is sent to 1B. If a pitched ball hits a batter it's a dead ball.
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DG, your right about 6.08b not being applicable and that a balk is a delayed dead ball in OBR, but I believe what Bob was pointing out was in reference to 8.05, where a "hit batter" is awarded first without reference to the balk. It implies that the ball is not dead. Which was oppisite of what I was saying that it is ALWAYS DEAD. It still a little confusing to me.