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Originally posted by GarthB
Never said I wanted to change ANY call my partner made. I game an example of one umpire providing information to another that led to the ruling umpire to change his own call.
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Well, if I have to have you do this, what the hell was I doing on the play?
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Originally posted by GarthB
One problem with "slippery slope" arguments like the one you make is that they are often, as in this case, based on ridiculous exaggerations of a point that was never intended to be that encompassing. My logics professor referred to it as arguments of the absurd that poeple fall back on when they either can't make their own point within realistic bounds or have no substantiating data.
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This is not a "slippery slope" argument. You said to "get the call right." If you have to get the call right, when are you going to just let your partners work the game? Do you not have responsibilities to worry about? So you are always watching what they see and their positioning? I only gave an example of the balk because Windy brought it up. He said you should change a balk call so that you "get it right." I only talked about that situation because it was mentioned. I would have never imagined a balk call was the same as a pulled foot or dropped ball. But it was for some reason.
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Originally posted by GarthB
Instead of altering others' points, address them as made, either pro or con, doesn't matter. Just don't feel so free to put words in others' mouths. Unless of course you're auditioning for a writing gig at officiating.com
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Join the party. Guys like you do this to me all the time. You change the points I make. You exaggerate my philosophies and my values that I hold. You even exaggerate things I have claimed and things I have done.
I took your example (Windy's at least) and applied it to other situations that we could change. If getting it right is the most important thing, then you should not have boundaries on when you use that philsophy. I am not saying this is a slippery slope, I am saying why just stop at balks? No matter what the call, you should change a call, because
you feel that your judgment is better than your partner's.
But then again, I am the idiot, the moron and stupid as hell. But you guys want to call everything all over the field to "get it right." Well I live by the philosophy to "trust my partners." I think there is a reason they are there. There is a reason they have to watch things I do not. There is a reason we are considered a team. It is not my job to do his job and for him to do mine. It is our job to work together. When we work together, I might ask for help. But if I am all over it, I do not need help. And if I cannot get in position to make most calls on pulled feet and dropped balls, what the hell am I looking at? That is what I am looking for. And maybe there was a pulled foot, but he got in on the base in time to have an out.
Peace