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Old Tue Jun 29, 2004, 11:43am
JRutledge JRutledge is offline
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Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
I will address this to those of you who can read...

I made it perfectly clear that it is conferring with your partners to correct a JUDGEMENT CALL or RULE INTERPRETATION is acceptable and the right thing to do. We see examples of this at the CWS and almost every week in MLB. Fan interference, foul balls, dropped catches and balks are all examples of calls that lead to these issues. This post began witha pulled foot and has moved away.

All those situations have 4 umpires on a game and where it is possible for more than on umpire to see many things to help with those kind of calls. But I have never seen an umpire call a balk, then his partner from another position change a call. I could be wrong, but I have never seen it happen. I am sure it has happen, but what happen to thoses that changed it?

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Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
I worked an American Legion State Championship last year that had a play over ruled. One of my partners (6 man) called a balk because the kid turned his shoulder toward first to check the runner. He is a terrific umpire and works a lot of high school baseball. As we know, his call was wrong. I was crew chief and asked him what he saw. He explained and I told him that Legion ball is governed by the American League version of OBR. He made a mistake and agreed that we need to reverse it. We took heat from the fans and one coach road him hard the rest of the game, BUT WE GOT IT RIGHT.
OK, this is a rules situation. I can agree with your changing the call there. But if we are working a HS playoff game and I call a balk because the pitcher did not come to a discernable stop and you come to me and tell me, "he stopped," you will not have to worry about the coach. I can guarantee you that.

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Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
Sure we do our best, but we mess up and it is up to us as ambassadors of the game to get the call right. Baseball is a sport that allows for appeals and assistance.
All sports has those situations in place. But you still have to trust your partner and let them earn their paycheck and do their job. There is a reason we have different coverage areas and responsibilities. If you cannot handle that, maybe you need to do the game by yourself, so that every call can be made by yourself.


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Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
I'm not asking anyone to hesitate or second guess a partner. I teach my clinicians that it is imperative that you get the call right. I am certain that I have gotten many calls wrong over the years. But, I can sleep at night because I was big enough to have my call corrected or diligent enough to correct my partner's erroneous call.
Well, you are not a clinician at any camp I have attended. And you claim to not be the head clinician of the IHSA, so I know they are not teaching that philosophy. I could be totally wrong, but I have never heard anyone suggest what you are saying.


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Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
Despite what many think, you get to work at this level because of the way you treat the game. There's plenty of time to sooth egos over a beer after the game. And yes, I've been the one that has had to buy the beer because of a bad call.
You sure you never had someone trying to black your eye for those stunts?

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