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Old Thu Jun 24, 2004, 06:05pm
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Starting from Tom's originial post and not reading the
last few replies, I will again attempt to give my answers
and then the guru's can hammer away.

Bases loaded, tie game, 7th inning, home team at bat with 2 outs. Ball 4, winning run is walked in.

a) BR does not advance to 1st, but enters dugout.

Out - ASA Rule 8-2D [BR Is Out] Fails to advance,
enters DBT.

b) R1 does not advance to home, but enters dugout.

Out - ASA Rule 8-7U [Runner Is Out] Runner left (abandons), base enters DBT.

Do you call either runner out? Both

Are either of these appeal plays? No

Is there a difference between a) and b)? Yes
BR did not abandon a base, she never had it. Just left
field of play.
R1 abandons a base she had and enters DBT.

ASA Rules, fast pitch please.

[Edited by Dakota on Jun 21st, 2004 at 05:26 PM]
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