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1) Was it a bad decision to award the 3rd base when I didnÂ’t actually pick up the BRÂ’s position at the time of the throw?
2) Technically, is it still called an “overthrow” when the ball deflects off a glove and goes out of play ?
1. It's hard to believe that the BR had not reached 1B by the time the throw left F9's hand. Award 3B.
2. Yes. However, ASA does stipulate that if a fielder loses control of a ball (rather than throws it), runners get 1 base from where the are at the time the ball goes out of play.
Example: Abel in a rundown between 1B and 2B. He slides back into 1B and knocks the ball loose from F3's glove. Ball goes into DBT. Abel gets 2B. If F4 had thrown the ball past F3 as Abel returned to 1B, Abel would get 3B.
I once had a play where a runner was on 2B with no outs, and the BR hit a ground ball to F6, who reached out to tag the runner going to 3B. The runner's knee knocked the ball loose, and it shot past 3B and out of play. The runner hadn't made it to 3B when the ball went out of play, so he got 3B only. I gave the batter 1B, but that was a guess since it was a one-man game and I didn't see how far he had advanced.
(OBR calls that play differently.)
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