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Old Sun Jun 06, 2004, 10:27am
IRISHMAFIA IRISHMAFIA is offline
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If one two coaches are up in your face yelling at you, all you have to do is eject the assistant coach. That will get him out of there
You're kidding, right? The only way that coach is going to leave immediately after being ejected is if you turn the the manager and say, "Before anything else is discussed, that coach has got to be gone, and by the way, he's on the clock."

I don't suggest anyone put themselves in that situation, but like R1 forced at 2B, they aren't just going to go poof and disappear because you eject them.

They may quite down, or walk away an pout, but if you get to the point where you need to eject someone, I believe you should take care of that piece of business before moving on with the discussion.
You're kidding, right? You allow assistant coaches to get up in you ear and argue a call with you? It is one thing when the manager is up in your ear yelling at you, he better watch what he says, because anyone who yells at me is close to getting tossed. But when assistant coach is up in my face yelling, I am getting rid of him right then.

And if neither one of the two guys who are in my face is the manager, then we might be having a doulbe ejection.
I didn't say to allow him to remain there, did I? I simply responded to your assertion that ejecting that coach is THE problem solver.

If I have two people in my face, my partner better be on his/her way.

I do not demand that I talk only to the manager. Some managers just happen to be the guy up stepped up and was capable of writing up a line up. However, I will explain it only one time. If someone else wants to know about it, they can talk to the player/coach/manager who talked to me.

ALSO, I will NEVER give warnings or ultimatums in a pre-game meeting. A pre-game meeting is to introduce yourself, exchange, examine and verify line-up cards, discuss GROUND rules and flip a coin, if necessary. That is it.

I believe umpires who make demands, and give what they consider to be preemptive ultimatums and warnings lack professionalism and place the manager/coach/team captain in an immediate adversarial position. Such things get to me even more when they are NOT covered by rule, but something the umpire has determined to be part of his/her game, rule book be damned.

If you have problems with profanity or such, don't threaten them. Inform them of your preference to not experience whatever offends you. Then tell them that you would prefer to not have to take official action, but will if any team member makes it necessary. You get your point across, but you have not threatened them. You have also not painted yourself into a corner of maybe not taking action in one instance, but ejecting someone else for what the participants to believe a similar/equal offense.

Rant off and jmho,

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