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Originally posted by CommonSenseRef
1) I assume that when a coach has you a bit upset during a game, you maintain your professionalism and don't resort to name calling. Why not here? There are many people reading this forum that are not officials. Why do you want to portray the hothead/name-calling image from the official's side?
2) I also think that you're assuming that the officials that worked this game in question, were competent officials. I don't make this assumption. Why? Because I have seen and worked with too many incompetent officials that shouldn't work any level of basketball. Many of them were great, wonderful, caring individuals, but were clearly a detriment in officiating basketball.
IMO, for those young officials that have great potential, but end up quitting..........I think it has more to do with the horrific actions (physical and verbal) of parents rather than coaches.
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1) What I post here is what I believe in. That's true wheher Kaliix, or anyone else reponding to my posts for that matter, likes it or not. We have coaches that come to this forum on a regular basis- HawksCoach, PA Coach, CYO Butch, etc., because they know that a good, working knowledge of the rules is gonna give them a big advantage over the bozos like Kaliix who think that working the officials is the only way to go. These guys that have been coming here for a while don't just give lip-service to teaching sportsmanship, but they actually believe in it. I respect them greatly for that, and I think that they know that. Note that this certainly doesn't mean that we agree on everything either. Coaches like Kaliix do not have my respect, will never have my respect, and I'll be damned if I'm gonna be two-faced and pretend that they do.
2) No, I certainly didn't assume ANYTHING about the officials that did the game that Kaliix is referring to. I commented on Kaliix's actions the way that he himself wrote about- his yapping, working the officials constantly, etc. Those actions are WRONG, no matter how good or bad the officials actually were. You seem to be the one that is hinting that they were incompetent officials. How exactly did you know that? And what have you ever done about the incompetent officials that you worked with anyway? Did you ever try to help those individuals become better officials? And you also just called some your fellow officials a detriment to officiating basketball? And then you're saying that I talked too harshly about Kaliix? Oh my! And I don't think that I'd really better comment any further on that. If I did, this thread would disappear in a hurry.
And as for your point that more officials quit because of parents than because of coaches, that is a complete reversal from I've been hearing from the officials in my area that are hanging up their whistles. They expected to hear crap from the parents when they started officiating. They didn't expect to hear the same sh*t from a middle-school girls' coach who should have been teaching sportsmanship along with the basketball skills. Iow, I don't agree with you on that one either.
[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Jun 3rd, 2004 at 10:06 PM]