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Originally posted by CoachRob
LaxRef,
I"m sorry for not being clear. I meant a defender standing in the goal crease but not acting as the designated goalkeeper (no throat or chest protector, and no GK crosse). If you can't get a backup GK ready in time, you have no choice but to put a defender in the crease (that happened to our team once).
We agree he gets no GK privileges, but crease violations still apply.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Under NCAA rules, at least, you MUST have a properly-equipped goaltender on the field; failure to do so is a technical foul (illegal procedure). There are a few A.R.s that need to get fixed from former years, when you could have a defender sub in, but now you MUST have a legally-equipped goalie on the field.
The mechanic that we use is that if the goalie gets a penalty and the team doesn't have a legally-equipped backup ready, we give them time to switch over the equipment (following the provision that tells us to be "reasonably lenient" when a team needs to put in a new goalie). If they want to warm him up (NCAA) they have to call a timeout; I believe NFHS gets a 1-minute warmup, which they might not give you if you need time to switch equipment.
If the team wants to get their original goalie back into the game, they must call a timeout or wait for an appropriate time (other team calls timeout; end of period).
Don't let them make you put a defender in the goal without goalie gear; it's a huge liability issue for you and for them.
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Originally posted by CoachRob
You stated: I'd like to apply the same logic, but there's the small matter that the rules ONLY specify a free clear for goalie interference with possession and for time-serving penalties with the ball in the defensive half of the field.
I'm not sure that is true. Rule 7-3, paragraph 2, sentence 1 dictates a free clear for a time-serving penalty in the defensive half, and Rule 6-2.3 gives a free clear for GK interference with possession. I do NOT see a SPECIFIC rule that states a free clear is to be given ONLY under those two situations.
There is a difference between making the statement "Only under these circumstances..." and finding two separate rules that apply the same penalty and concluding these to be the ONLY cases in which that particular penalty is applied. (Do you have a rule reference that states the word "ONLY"?)
For instance, it is one thing to say (1) John Jones is 6' 1", and (2) John Evans is 6' 1", versus saying "ONLY men named John are 6' 1" tall". I think that may be what you have done with the free clear situation. [/B]
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Your example is not on point. The rules say that for a non-timeserving technical foul, you award the ball 20 yards laterally from the goal or at the spot where the ball was. Then they give a few exceptions that say when it's a free clear. In the absence of other exceptions, I think you're forced to stick with 20 yards laterally or at the spot.
The appropriate example would be "All men named John are 6'1", except for John Jones and John Evans." Then if you find a guy name John John, he has to be 6'1".
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Originally posted by CoachRob I hope I sated that clearly. It's a bit tough to write exactly what you are thinking.
But we agree, it seems like it should be a free clear. If you submit your question, would you mind submitting mine as well? [/B]
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Sorry, I already submitted my (long) list for this year.