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Originally posted by Rich Fronheiser
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Originally posted by ecurebel
i don't think that i would eject but i would specifically warn the player and team about using this type of language. if i started the conversation is not important it is the fact that the word was used. the player knows better, and the coach shouldn't stand for it.
if he says any words that i can hear i will tell him whats going on, and that i will not and do not tolerate any language of that kind on a ball field.
but if he says it loud enough for everybody in the stands to hear, you bet your but he is gone from the ball game. talking to me is one thing letting the crowd here it is another. i would rather deal with the booking agent on why i tossed him rather than hear from the coaches on why i let him stay..
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I've had kids yell out "sh*t" after getting thrown out at first base and I've smiled, made the call, and headed to right field between innings. If their coach doesn't want to handle that, I'm certainly not bothering.
I'm an umpire, and I'm not the morality police. Swear at me or get personal with me, and you're done at any level. But I don't get involved with nonsense like this. OOO.
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In my career I know of several umpires (I reached six while deciding whether to join this thread) who lost important games because they ignored a player's cussing that was loud enough for ladies in the stands to hear.
Sh!t is certainly a taboo word. The way to determine what is proscribed: Would you use that word in conversation with a priest after mass?
Several in the thread have offered the "correct" solution: Regardless of who started the conversation, talk between umpire/coach and umpire/player is priviledged. No harm, no foul.
Mr. Fronheiser says he never gets excited when a player loudly cusses ("Sh!t") after he's been called out; after he
made an out.
In my games at any level -- and in any association I've ever been involved with -- such language would be instant grounds for dismissal. As I said, some umpire who did not discipline the offender were put on the "don't-call-'em-for-a-game" list after complaints by spectators.
Well, perhaps that's a southern "thing," a Texas thing. Apparently, it's not a Fronheiser thing, and he's been in associtions in perhaps six or seven states.
Too bad. I'm sorry baseball in Wisconsin has dropped to that level.
Rich: Last year you called a very important Little League majors tournament. Eleven-year-old kid is out at first to end the inning. "Sh!t!!," he screams after you call him out.
You say you'd trot out to your position in right field.
I don't believe it.