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I don't think they will ever be part of moving up. They have been around long enough to catch on with some heavy hitters and they haven't. I think the shoe is ugly so I wouldn't wear them if they were patent leather or not. Someone also mentioned them being worth the extra bucks. I wouldn't wear them if they were free! Having said all of that if some one else likes them more power to you. I'm sure somebody doesn't like my shoes.
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