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Old Wed May 12, 2004, 08:00am
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buddha69: "Yes I do know a difference between a foul ball and a foul tip. It was a foul tip, the BR foul tip the ball and the catcher did not catch it, it fell out of the glove hit home plate ball rolled of the plate to pitcher side of plate"

I am not sure you do know, but at least you ended up with the correct call.

A ball that is ticked by the bat, and goes directly to the catcher's glove, and is caught is a Foul Tip. A foul tip is a live ball, is called a strike, and in your case would have been the 3rd strike, ending the game.

A ball that is ticked by the bat, and is not caught - in your case it hit the glove then dropped to the ground - is a Foul Ball. Foul ball is dead ball, and, in your case, is not a strike as there were already two strikes on the batter.

Foul Tip rules confuse players, coaches, and new umpires because they focus on the action of the ball being "tipped" by the bat. It doesn't matter whether the ball is just "ticked," or hit a little harder, or hit smack in the center of the bat. You need to focus on what happens after the bat hits the ball.

If it goes directly to the catcher's glove and is caught it is a foul tip (strike); if it goes a little or lot higher and is caught by catcher or any player, it is a caught fly ball (whether in fair or foul territory) and is an out. If it touches the ground and is touched by somebody, then it is a fair or foul ball, depending on where on the field it is touched.

So forget the bat/ball action and make your call by what happens after the ball is touched by the bat.

WMB
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